The Tip of the Iceberg podcast - Beyond Refrigeration

The Institute of Refrigeration brings you a podcast getting to grips with critical issues facing the refrigeration, air conditioning and heat pump sector in the UK. News, views and insights from the business and engineering experts driving innovation and change in our sector. The IOR is the place for experts in this sector, a membership institute and professional engineering association. Our podcasts are hosted by Miriam Rodway, Chief Executive. Our guests are members who are leading the field in all sorts of aspects of refrigeration, air conditioning, heating and innovation. Find out more about the IOR at

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Tuesday Mar 05, 2024

In this episode I spoke with a student doing work experience at the IOR discussing how their views - and those of their friends - have changed about the sector and careers now they know more about refrigeration air conditioning and heat pumps.  We talked about what kind of careers advice young people get at schools, what they think of engineering and what we can do to raise awareness of this sector.  If you are not sure about whether you should take on a student for a weeks work experience we hope this podcast will help convince you of how much value they can add!

Tuesday Dec 12, 2023

This is our second podcast recorded live from the COP28 in Dubai in December 2023. This time we talked to two UK experts who are involved in the Africa Centre of Excellence, an international project that is addressing the cold chain and building capacity in Africa. Yosr Allouche of the International Institute of Refrigeration and Judith Evans of London South Bank University tell us why international collaboration is key to addressing climate change and how the ACES project is leading the way in capacity building and engaging all the right people.
For more about the ACES project which is led by the University of Birmingham's Centre for Sustainable Cooling and involves amongst other UK Government DEFRA, LSBU and the International Institute of Refrigeration, see these links mentioned in the podcast 

Tuesday Dec 12, 2023

In this episode I speak to UK cooling experts at the COP28 meetings in Dubai in 2023. We discussed why cooling is gathering momentum as a key part of global climate change talks, what impact the "Cool COP" and the Global Cooling Pledge signed this year by countries including the UK will have, and explore how asking questions in a different way can give us a new perspective on sustainability.  Im joined by Catarina Marques FInstR of LSBU and an IOR Board Trustee and Graeme Maidment and Rachel Steller who have been involved in the initiatives such as Mission Innovation, the Global Cooling Stocktake and Global Cooling Pledge.
Links to some of the items discussed
UK's Transport Industrial and Commercial Refrigeration Net Zero Project led by LSBU
The Global Cooling Pledge
And you can watch the Global Cooling Pledge launch event held at at COP28 here
Emissions Stocktake 
IOR Beyond Refrigeration Environment Initiative 

Monday Jul 17, 2023

This episode explores the issues raised by the IMechE Report "Adapting Industry to withstand rising temperatures and future heatwaves" and how the refrigeration, air conditioning and heat pump industries need to address them.
I am joined by Rob Lamb, Chris Green and Brian Churchyard, IOR members active on the IOR Beyond Refrigeration Environment group. We discussed the need for the new ways of working to ensure resilience and availability of cooling in the future - the importance of collaboration, of good design and maintenance but also of getting the right resources in place to adapt to changing condition, including non refrigeration technologies - we conclude that the industry needs to change the way it does things and start designing for more capacity and less energy.  
You can read the IMechE Report here
And explore the Environmental Audit Committee work on living with rising temperatures here 

Thursday Jan 05, 2023

In this podcast IOR President Graeme Fox argues the case for heat pumps as a critical part of the net zero agenda. He looks at the challenges of greater integration not just of heating and cooling but also joined up thinking by engineers, designers and policy makers. 
The podcast is an extract of a talk given in December 2022 and includes a question and answer session chaired by Dermot Cotter on behalf of the Institute of Refrigeration. The full paper is available to download at
Find out more about the IOR's Beyond Refrigeration net zero work at 

Tuesday Jul 19, 2022

In this episode we talked about the issues around how to achieve the best system performance with Lisa-Jayne Cook of GEA and Ian Fisher of Mattair.   Our experts shared some ideas about what we can learn from the best and worst examples in industrial processing and building cooling.   Some of the topics we discussed:
- whether design or maintenance is more critical to achieving good performance
- how we need to get better at explaining how cooling technologies work
- getting smarter about how systems are managed. 
Find out more about these critical elements of our path to net zero in this podcast. 

7 - Careers in STEM

Thursday Jul 07, 2022

Thursday Jul 07, 2022

This episode was recorded on International Women in Engineering Day in June 2022 and I was joined by Steve Gill of World Refrigeration Day, Lisa-Jayne Cook, IOR Women in RACHP Group and Sam Buckell STEM Ambassador.
We discussed how careers in Science Technology Engineering and Maths fields are evolving and what can be done to bring more diversity into our sector in order to attract the best people and skills.
You can find out more about some of the initiatives mentioned in this episode at
Check out the new IOR podcast "States of Matter" for more from the IOR Women in RACHP Group 

Thursday May 19, 2022

This podcast comes from a panel debate at the 2022 International conference on cold chain sustainability.  Experts from international collaborative projects discussed what the critical factors are for the successful implementation of climate-friendly cold chains in developing nations.  They seem to agree on the need to address wider multi-disciplinary issues and involve Government high-level objectives.  Who are the key players and how can, should and are they working together in practice?
The Debate is chaired by Lily Riahi of UNEP/the Cool Coalition and includes:
Olivier Dubois of the FAO
Brian Holuj of UNEP
Leo Blyth of The World Bank
Ayman Eltalouny of UNEP
They discussed the ACES pan African project sited in Rwanda and you can find out more about that work at 
The Cool Coalition projects can be explored at 

Thursday May 05, 2022

For this episode we talk about how much this industry has to offer the right people and get some tips from the experts on how to organise work placements and make best use of apprentices. I'm joined by  Jessica Long, Sam Jones and Millie Edwards. They have been working with their local school get pupils involved in work experience placements that contribute both to the business and to the young persons' career prospects.  As part of the Beyond Refrigeration theme of developing the best people and skills, we talk about how we can make young people more aware of all that the industry has to offer.
For a link to careers resources and the example work placement timetable we talk about in the episode see:  :
Ideas for working with schools (IOR free Guidance note)
How to become recognised as a STEM Ambassador (IOR free Guidance note)
More about the STEM programme (IOR free Guidance note)
Using the IOR Fantastic Fridges website with schools (IOR free Guidance note)
Careers in Cooling with the IOR  youtube video with careers info and science explanations
STEM Ambassadors programme provides Training and registration with website to match you with local careers events
The Enterprise Adviser Network can help link you with a local school to develop a careers strategy
Local vocational colleges and schools are now offering T-Levels that include 45 days of industry placement for students  

Tuesday Apr 26, 2022

This podcast was recorded as part of the IIR International Cold Chain and Sustainability Conference held in April 2022 and organised by the Institute of Refrigeration.  
We invited a team of experts to discuss carbon reduction opportunities. Can the global cold chain do more with less, whilst at the same time meeting changing customer demands?  What will be the role of new business models, improved data sources and coherence across stakeholders in making more rapid gains towards net zero and more effective policy solutions?
Join our panel of speakers with guest chair Julie Hanson of the Global Cold Chain Alliance.


About us

The Institute of Refrigeration is the professional institute for experts in refrigeration, air conditioning and heat pumps. With over 2000 members we know about cooling - the challenges, opportunities and changes coming your way. Cooling is essential to all our lives, from the food we eat to the products we buy and the buildings we occupy.  These podcasts expore just some of the issues facing the people designing efficient, sustainable and safe use of cooling in the world today.

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